Nichts für ungut, Jörg, das klingt irgendwie komisch ... :lol:Zitat:
Zitat von Optikus64
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Nichts für ungut, Jörg, das klingt irgendwie komisch ... :lol:Zitat:
Zitat von Optikus64
Ich habe am adapterbrauch gestolpert. Doch, ein bisschen wissen war praktisch.
When years ago I got a Miranda and an Alpa and discovered that they had adapters that fitted my old takumar macro, I of course used that.
Much, much later when I succumbed to using digital devices, I got a Kodak with canon EF mount that easily accomodated M42, Nikon and Contax so my library of lenses with adapters could be expanded. Especially when Leitz abandoned their R series and their lenses became cheap .
Also before the general discovery of good DDR optics while amateur cine was nonexistent and no one had heard of Kinoptic and Angenieux I could stock up on unfashioable, high quality glass.
For a short whille I used the quite handy MFT and aquired mr Caldwells excellent speedboosters to recapture wide angles. But the Nikon z7 allowed my wides to be wide while the large sensor could serve as negatives used to perform in the darkoom: enabling framing and enlaging details while it accepts all my old lenses. Novoflex provided the proper mount for their 50-60year old pigriff- C.
Unfortunately the Nikon is too large and heavy, so for hiking I have succumbed to using an APS-sensor autofocus 11-23 wide zoom ehile carrying my old M lenses in pockets (much more compact that current creations). the camera is not as easy to focus as the Z but has reasonable picture quality and has proven to be robust enough to survive a few of my stumblings. (It remains to be seen if it will survive rain and snow as long as my M3 did)
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Conclusion: accidental adaptation of adapters is a distinct possibility
Ich mag es einfach, alte manuelle Objektive am digitalen Kameras zu nutzen und bin immer wieder erstaunt, wie gut manche von den Linsen auch gemessen an heutigen Ansprüchen noch sind.
Im Moment haben es mir die alten CZJ Objektive angetan. Pancolar und Flektogon, Sonnar oder auch das schwere Olympia Sonnar mit Pentacon Six Anschluss. Als nächstes werde ich wohl noch ein paar P6 Objektive probieren.
Aber auch so stöbere ich immer gerne durch ebay und kleinanzeigen um zu sehen, was es noch so alles gibt. Manchmal sind da echte Perlen drunter...manchmal aber auch echte miese Scherben.
An APS-C machte das für mich immer nicht so viel Sinn, aber seit ich die K-1 besitze, macht das richtig Spass.
Für mich, der ich erst zu digitalen Zeiten angefangen habe zu fotografieren, waren die Altgläser der Einstieg ins manuelle Fokussieren – zugegebenermaßen zu einer Zeit, als man wirklich noch für kleines Geld großartige Objektive ergattern konnte, was sicherlich ein Reizfaktor war. Durch den Wechsel auf eine DSLM ist das jetzt auch gar kein Problem mehr, während es mit der EOS 5DII trotz anderer Mattscheibe immer auch ein bisschen Glücksspiel war.
Zusammen mit der Sony Alpha hatte ich mir auch ein Tamron-AF-Standardzoom gekauft, weil ich irgendwie noch das Gefühl hatte, ich bräuchte das. Tatsächlich habe ich es einmal ausprobiert, und seitdem steht es im Schrank. Dafür habe ich inzwischen auch unter modernen manuellen Objektiven einige gefunden, die ich durchaus schätze. Für mich gehört das Drehen am Blenden- und Fokusring inzwischen einfach zum Fotografieren dazu, und das verdanke ich den Altgläsern – und nicht zuletzt dem Club. :D
Gruß Jens
Mit manuell optik braucht man kein autofocus, Warum ist das ein vorteil ?
in English to avoid my stolpriges deutsch- With autofocus one is dependent on the focus point staying in a predictable place- Some cameras tend to lock on to the most contrasty object it can find (like a twig many meters in front of the motive). Coupled with an unfortunate tendency to open the aperrture this results in blurry pictures even if the camera likes fast shutter speeds with longer lenses.
Even worse, some cameras such as the Olympus PenF the Nikon Z7 and the Leica CL has a well defined focussing spot, but it moves erratically when handling the camera with the inevitable touching of controls that cannot be disabled. If one wishes to take a quick snap there is no time to search for where the focussing spot is hiding itself. Result: blurreed pictures of motives that never come back.
One certain method for getting rid of autofocus difficulties is manual focussinhg If one is used to this it is fast enough for daily use. To achieve this the only method is to use manual lenses.
An added advantage is the ability to control aperture without having to faff around with menus and buttons.
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As can be seen from my texts ad adapters, the veteran lens habit is currently tempting me to aquire three exceptionally unadaptable lenses. However the disffficulties and the time needed to make use of them holds me back even if the cost of the set is trivial. Hence curiosity can be listed beside accident as one motive in the list.
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Anhang 153078 soft snap
I succumbed to curiosity since these compact jewels deserve to be tried. Especially since the entire set plus original caps and one UV filter, and their original red lined leather case, only cost about 45euro. While I await arrival of the Lmount adapter I will only need bayonet-sunshades or to make some carboard versions myself.
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Congratulations, Paul
what a beautiful set. I hope you get it adapted properly, that you can show us some pictures, taken with theese lenses...
best regards,
Christian
Hey Paul,Zitat:
Zitat von hofsethpaul
are you sure that you will be able to adapt these via an L-Mount adapter? These lenses are for the Contaflex 126 as it seems. I only know that in earlier Contaflex cameras part of the lens system was built into the body of the camera. Only the front part of the lenses was changed (Tele Tessars). Hopefully you got the whole lens, otherwise adaption will be a bit more challenging and in need of a broken camera as a donor.
In any case, I'm also looking forward seeing images that you will take with them. Zeiss lenses are always worth having.
Regards, Rolf
thanks to good advice on the adapter thread here, I ordered the helix+ aperture mechanism from China. Time-consuming transport, but at least one avoids the incompetent UPS "service"and the at times unreliable local post.
Unfortunately my illustration above is not properly focussed; using a 105mm handheld without stopping down a lot and making certain that all is in focus is a bad idea.
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Siehe https://www.digicamclub.de/showthread.php?t=27022
Paul hat sich vermutlich diesen Adapter bestellt.
Further to the comment above ad internal lens elements: the Contaflex designed for Kodaks badly designed film carrier does not have the unremovable basic lens where add-ons like the pro-xx had to be used with the built in lens to function. The 126 version did have some parts fixed to the camera body, such as the aperture control and the focussing helix. However the aperture itself is in the usual place and can be operated by any correctly placed pin. Thus the Chinese adapter "only" needs the correct size and distance bayonets , a helicoid , plus a correctly placed pin. No optical components. I hope that it turns out to have Novoflex precision more hppenstance engineering is not fair to the precision of the optics. Just like the original instamatic cassettes were a mismatch.
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Very interesting, thanks for the Info.Zitat:
Zitat von hofsethpaul
I did try the zeiss glass and found it adequate, but not quite as sharp and contrasty as I had hoped.
I have noted the wishes for examples. My usual attitude to photo examples is that they remain more informative of aesthetic ability than of thechnical capacities especially in the small versions allowed , and making comparable blowups of center and corners and uploading (!) is too labour intensive and very much dependent on how curves and sharpness is massaged. Hence, I refrain.
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I do have another comment on manual focus glass, however. Learnt from unhappy experience.
I am among those photographers who rarely use the buttons and viewfinder display distractions. Only when I need to set the anti-shake mechanism of my Nikon Z do I dive into the menu. A few days ago (before the cat decided to chew on my Novioflex to camera cable and destroy it), i had set the anti shake to handle a very long lens. Yesterday, new snow gave a chance to picture my neighbourhood with my excellent manual 18mm, so I went out without bothering to fiddle with settings.
Not only was the pernicious, unlockable and easily turned exposure correction wheel acccidentally turned to underexpose by 3 stops , but when i got indoors again to a pre-Christmas party, slow exposure times were totally blurred by the stabilizer jiggling. The outdoors snap enclosed was rescued since the exposure was too short for the jiggler to interfere and photoshop could fix the exposure.
conclusion; manual focus optics are excellent, but modern cameras must be closely watched when using them with manual lenses-
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Hi Paul,
manufacturers could easily implement something to help avoid this. Pentax Cameras for example ask for the focal length of the attached lens, if you don‘t have an AF-lens attached when you switch the camera on. I find this quite handy, but we have to keep in mind, that the camera makers want to sell modern lenses.
Greetings
Jörn
YEs, reminders that something is not set is useful, but even better would be contols that are not accidentally turned. Leitz fixed this when transitioning from R-8 to R-9 by puttting a lock button on the delinquent wheel. Nikon might do the same on their annoying exposure control wheel as well as deliver a menu-setting where moving the focus- and lightmetering point cannot happen.
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